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Why do we in the west never learn anythingabout China in school? D:

为什么西方人从不在学校里教关于中国的知识?


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Rolling Cloud
Which country r u in? In USA they teachparts of Chinese history in the world history course.

你是哪个国家?在美国的世界史课程中会教授部分中国史

Cerii
I live in Norway, and we are teached nextto nothing about China.

我住在挪威,我们这关于中国的事一点都不教

Rolling Cloud
+Cerii interesting, do you guys teach worldhistory then?
Are you in college or hs?

有趣,你们学世界史吗?你现在是在大学还是高中?

Cerii
@TheSunshineRequiem Yes, we are teachedabout world history, but not so much about China. More European history.

是的我们教世界史,但是我们关于中国学的不多,更多的是欧洲史

Rolling Cloud
+Cerii after all it's a foreign history toyou guys, but at least it should at least mention the invention of paper,compass, gunpowder and printing. Maybe the Silk Road connects Asia to Europetoo.

毕竟对你们来说这只是外国历史,但是至少也要提到纸,指南针,火药和印刷术的发明啊,还有亚欧的丝绸之路



LiquidfirePUA
Do Chinese learn about European history?

中国人学欧洲史吗

he he
LiquidfirePUA of course, i learn hre androman empire , and spain ,british ,dutch rise ,and russian , france evolutionwhen i was in middleschool.btw , i am a chinese

当然学,我们中学的时候学习神圣罗马帝国和罗马帝国还有西班牙,英国,荷兰的崛起还有俄国,法国的演变。顺带一提,我是中国人。

he he
Cerii every country want the citizen to beproud as their own culture. when they learn chinese history , i guess they wontproud that much on their own hisotry cultrue.this is a reason. their governmentdont want their citizento know in ancient time there was a country which is muchbigger ,stronger , and more civilizied than them. this aganist theirown-nation- advanture theory. i am not nature english speaker, sorry maybewrong gramar, but i try my best

每个国家都想让他们的国民为他们自己的文化自豪。当他们学了中国史,我猜他们就不会那么为他们的历史和文化自豪了。这是一个原因。他们的政府不想让他们的国民知道古代的时候还有一个国家比他们更大更强更文明,这和他们的自主发展理论相违背,我不是天生说英语的,如果语法错了的话对不起,但是我尽力了。

Cerii
@Kl yb That is fine, i found youexplenation quit helpful :)

没关系, 我觉得你的解释很有帮助

LiquidfirePUA
@kl yb
Awesome, I'm self-educating on Chinesehistory now! I have sent a letter to my mnister of education asking for more onAsian / Euasian history.
We do get some history, but it's quitebland/basic, compared to European/American history.
You guys made some greatprojects(eventhough some of it was build by slaves just like we did in the west).
I.e combining the rivers, Great Wall etc.

真棒我现在在自学中国历史!我已经给我们教育部长寄去一封信,让他们多教一些亚洲/欧亚的历史
我们确实学过一些历史,但是和欧美历史相比还是太枯燥又基础
你们确实造过许多伟大的工程(即使很多都是像我们西方的一样,是让奴隶造的)



Count Janus Hassildor
Cerii western culture and education is veryeurocentric, so it's possible that they just don't find you learning about Asiaas important and possible want you to be only proud of your European ancestry,the truth is that there is a whole world out there of fascinating cultures andsocieties, the Mayans of central America and mexico, The empires of Africa, themiddle eastern civilizations, the Asian cultures and empires, etc. There ismuch more than western history.

西方文化和教育是极度以欧洲为中心的, 所以他们可能只是不觉得对亚洲的了解同样重要, 可能希望你只为自己的欧洲血统感到骄傲, 事实是, 欧洲之外有一个充满着迷人文化的世界 和社会, 中美洲和墨西哥的玛雅人, 非洲的帝国, 中东文明, 亚洲文化和帝国, 等等。远远不止西方历史。

Darkvine
True we learn nothing about Chinese orAsian history in general at school here in the West. History classes as far asI remember started with a 'Prehistory intro' then the Egyptians, the Greeks,Romans, ... eventually you've also probably seen that the Chinese built a wallin geography classes but that's about it.
Commenting from Belgium, I bet theAmericans are even more ignorant :D IF you want to know more, there's thelibrary or the internet.
Of course as kids we would never complainabout not having to learn something.

确实,我们在西方学校通常几乎学不到关于中国和亚洲的历史。。我对历史课的记忆是,先从“史前介绍”到埃及,希腊,罗马。最终你也可能看到中国人在地理课上筑起了一堵墙, 但这也就是全部了。我是比利时人,我打赌美国人更无知。如果你想学习更多,只能去图书馆或者上网了

Yahyo Ganiev
Western and European countries learned manything from China, but they dont want to accept it, they think, they are moredeveloped countries than Asians

西方和欧洲国家从中国学到了很多东西, 但他们不想接受, 他们认为, 他们比亚洲人更发达

Sandman Lee
I'm Chinese and I think we don't have enoughlearning about other countries either.
Our history textbook was divided into twoparts: the history of China, and the history of the world. The Chinese partstarts with Huang Di (or Yellow Emperor), Yao, Shun, Yu, then Sia Dynasty. Theworld history part starts with the name of Ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, India,and then straightly jump to Ancient Greece and Roman Empire. To me, all thoseancient civilizations existed in middle-east, north Africa,and south-east partof Europe is like a jam.

我是中国人, 我想我们对其他国家的了解也不够。
我们的历史教科书分为两个部分: 中国历史和世界历史。中国的部分以黄帝开始然后尧舜禹然后是夏朝。世界历史部分从古埃及、美索不达米亚、印度开始, 然后直接跳到古希腊和罗马帝国。对我来说, 所有这些古代文明都存在于中东、北非和欧洲东南部, 就像堵车一样

derek lambert
they do . all about Bruce lee

他们教过啊,不过全是关于李小龙的

JesusChristIsLord
Because that's the job of the Internet.

因为这就是互联网的作用。

OneElse
cuz u are westerner
keep that in mind lol

因为你是西方人,记住哈哈

El Hermano
LiquidfirePUA We learn every country'shistory.

我们学了每个国家的历史



Hand Solo
Ordinary people might be convinced butacademically Xia is still regarded as a myth more than anything else even inChina. The palace they found was very small, only 100m in length.

普通民众可能会信服, 但即使在中国, 在学术上夏仍然被认为是一个神话, 而不是别的。他们发现的宫殿很小, 只有100米长。

Thannarong Viboonsunti
That is why the mindset of Trump 'ssupporters is so naive & bringing the country down now.:-) :-) :-)

这就是为什么特朗普支持者的心态如此天真并且现在把整个国家给坑了。:-) :-)

Marlinspike Mate
Because modern liberal school can’t eventeach you where China is.

因为现在的宽松的学校甚至教不了你中国在哪

王揭
Most Westerners'understanding of China isstill in the Qing Dynasty, which is a barbarous and backward country. So thewestern countries disdain to understand China this barbaric place!

大多数西方人对中国的理解还在清朝,是一个野蛮落后的国家。所以西方国家不屑了解中国这个野蛮的地方!

Vic Lee
They always report bad news about Chinabecause contemporary China is a communist country, the West is averse tocommunism, and thus dislikes contemporary China. And even ancient China wasdisgusted together.

他们总是报道关于中国的坏消息, 因为当代中国是一个共产主义国家, 西方反对共产主义, 因此不喜欢当代中国。而即使是古代的中国, 也一并被厌恶。

Vic Lee
@LiquidfirePUA The Chinese have learnedEuropean history in great detail. English is a compulsory course for Chinesestudents. The Chinese know the West very well. The Chinese even know thehistory of Europe than the Americans. I heard that many people in the UnitedStates cannot find Europe's position on the map and even find the UnitedStates.

中国人非常详细地学习了欧洲历史。英语是中国学生的必修课。中国人对西方非常了解。中国人甚至比美国人更了解欧洲的历史。我听说, 美国很多人在地图上找不到欧洲的位置, 甚至找不到美国。



John Espree
Cerii , for the same reasons that Africanor Latin American or Native American history is ignored or minimized. The Eurocentric view of history has beeninstitutionalized to maintain and defend colonialism and its lasting effects. This is why all native writings weresystematically destroyed in the americas by the Spanish and British and why theBritish, French and Arabs purposely defaced the monuments in ancient Egypt thatindicated African features . History isrewritten by the “ winners “.

出于同样的原因, 非洲或拉丁美洲或美洲原住民的历史被忽略或尽量减少了。以欧洲为中心的历史观已经制度化, 以维持和捍卫殖民主义及其长远的影响。这就是为什么所有美洲的本土著作都在美国被西班牙人和英国人系统地摧毁, 也是为什么英国人、法国人和阿拉伯人故意破坏古埃及的纪念碑, 因为这些纪念碑有非洲的特征。历史是由 "胜利者" 改写的。

John Espree
Rolling Cloud , i was a world historyteacher in America and can attest that Chinese and other world civilizations get short shrift compared toEuropean, particularly English, history. Even AP courses offer little content in Asian and Indian civilizationsmuch less African history outside of ancient Egypt and little mention of nativemesoamerican and Caribbean cultures other than to note their so calledbarbarism and to use that asjustification for their collapse and defeat by the Europeans.
I doubt that more than 1/4 of American highschool graduates can name more than 10 cities in any continent other thanEurope or North America or accurately state the number of countries in Africamuch less the names or the number of Chinese or Indian provinces or even listNative American ethnic groups, who solely in conjunction with their Africancounterparts are incorrectly identified as tribes.
Why aren’t the normans or aryans or anglesor saxons or Huns or Visigoths or Vikings or any European ethnic or languagegroups ever referred to as such? Eventhe top tier American public or private schools rarely or ever offer coursesthat provide in depth study in or require demonstration of any but superficialknowledge of non western culture, even on standardized tests.

我是美国的世界史老师,我可以证明,与欧洲史相比特别是英国史相比,中国和其他文明的历史被忽视了,即使亚太那部分的课程,也没有多少亚洲和印度文明的内容,古埃及之外的非洲历史也更少,很少提到本土的中美洲和加勒比文化, 除了提到他们所谓的野蛮之外,并以此作为被欧洲人击溃和失败的理由。
我怀疑能不能有1/4的美国高中毕业生可以说出超过十个欧美大陆以外的十个城市或者准确的说出非洲国家的数量,更不用说中国或者印度省份的名字,甚至仅仅列出美洲的原住民群体,但是他们只和他们的非洲同类被错误地认为是部落。
为什么诺曼人或雅利安人、盎格魯人、萨克逊人、匈人、西哥特人或北欧海盗或任何欧洲民族或语言群体都没有被这样称呼?即使是美国顶级公立或私立学校, 也很少曾经提供深入学习的课程或要求展示任何一个非西方文化粗略知识,即使是在标准化的考试中。
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